The Conservative Party conference threw up some interesting debates.
And threw light on progressive policies that improve Animal welfare.
Jim Barrington made an effective point that if animal charities like the RSPB actually admitted that in the work they do animals will be killed it makes for a more grown up debate.
This admission and clarity reduces likelihood animal rights extremists infiltrating the charities and turning them into a pressure group beyond the initial aims of the animal charities.
If animal charities admitted they use poison and other lethal pest control methods in their buildings, shoot crows and foxes the debate will be more constructive on how to improve the lives of the animals the charity set out to help.
Here is Jim and a short clip.